Quote from Electrik Kar :

I'm up for a discussion about that

No? Err, o.k. then.

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

How's the echo chamber going in here?

Want to add anything? How about you give us your opinion on the GWPF report? Ross McKitrick also has a new report out. If you read them then you could reflect on your statements of confidence on the thoroughness of the various climategate enquiries to date. I'm up for a discussion about that. If you like.

Last edited by Electrik Kar, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 20:15.

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It's now 'Global Climate Disruption'

It's a bit silly. I don't think it's a name that will stick, it's a whole extra word for starters. 'Global Weirding' was a name that was tossed around recently.


I think Holdren is wanting something where you can point to a particular flood/drought situation and say it's a case of 'Global Climate Disruption'. 'Disruption' has a more negative connotation for people than 'change', which could actually imply a positive. But adding 'global' won't work as you're still talking about very localised events which may have very local causes. Very hard to rule out the local or make blanket statements about particular events. I saw some graphs the other day which showed split temperature trends for both the Northern and Southern Hemispheres. Strangely, Southern Hemispheric temperatures are actually pretty flat, there's really no warming going on at all if you take the SH as a whole, it's all confined to the Northern Hemisphere. When you add both hemispheres together you get a rising trend, and then we label that trend as 'Global Warming'. But that is unrepresentative of reality as half of the globe doesn't appear to be warming at all. 'Northern Hemispheric Warming' doesn't have a very nice ring to it, and anyway- it's three words again.

Last edited by Electrik Kar, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 19:44.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

At least I still support Scawen's development without catastrophic whining like the majority of the forum.

Didn't you get some time out for catastrophic whining awhile back?

Quote from Racer X NZ :

We also carry a full range of flags and lighter fluid. Our plan is to go multinational then we can sell muslim effigies and flags to americans and visa versa.

You might have some competition there

http://www.youtube.com/watch#! ... JzNyY&feature=related

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Ask anyone that is knowledgable in tech. They will tell you that Blackberries are a terrible investment right now.

Pff... How can anything be considered an investment that's meant to be replaced by a newer model every 6/12 months?

Quote from mookie427 :

Ahh yes indeed. Blinkers on to maximum effectiveness!

Here's a quote from one of the online comments in Fred Pearce's article on the GWPF report. Apparently this commenter was highly unimpressed by the factual nature of said report. This isn't a sarcastic/joke comment...

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"Factual report"? Who needs facts when you have consensus? If they want facts they'll vote on them.

Amazing.

Last edited by Electrik Kar, Thu 16 Sep 2010, 08:47.

Who needs skis anymore??

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One person decided that “due to global warming” he didn’t need his skis anymore. Then, he used a unique homogenization process to solve the problem of having skis. Watch the video:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/201 ... omogenization/#more-24936



edit: latest snow report

Last edited by Electrik Kar, Thu 16 Sep 2010, 03:57.

There are some absolute screams in there.

I think this is one of my favourites, the last one for May 17th. It's also one of the wife's favourites.

I've rewound and played this back atleast 15 times. LOL doesn't even begin to cover it.


edit: this one is cute-

Ghostly froggies. A-hoppin' an ... , ribbit. Oooooh, ribbit.

Last edited by Electrik Kar, Wed 15 Sep 2010, 12:51.

Quote from mookie427 :

Somehow I think my 'omfg global warming is gonna kill us all' friends won't read it at all.

Fixed it for you

Ken Stewart's at it again, this time focusing on the urban HQ (adjusted) stations for Australia. He has found a 70% warming bias in the adjustments over the raw data. Once again, we find many earlier measurements have been cooled, with the effect that the warming trend becomes steeper over the whole series.

A caveat here is that the urban stations are not used for climate purposes (they are not included in the Australian data which goes on to become part of the larger global database). Having said that, as most people live in urban areas there is always going to be some interest in temperature records for these places. The papers (if not scientists) are always quick to point out whenever this or that town breaks a record.

I was a little surprised to see that Melbourne wins the prize for the station with the greatest downwards adjustment. With so much growth this station should be adjusted downwards to account for UHI (urban heat island effect), but it's a little surprising because Melbourne has set a record or two recently for hot weather, even after a degree of cooling adjustment.

Here's the difference in trend graph-




Many sites show cooling in the raw data, but Ken again finds that adjustments have turned a cooling trend into a warming trend. For example, here's raw and adjusted for Echuca.



Brisbane


Wangaratta is an extreme case



More detail and commentary here-

http://joannenova.com.au/2010/ ... cities-adjusted-up-by-70/

Last edited by Electrik Kar, Wed 15 Sep 2010, 08:44.

Hilarious blog about a guy who constantly talks in his sleep.

http://sleeptalkinman.blogspot.com/




"I wanna put you in a snow globe. Just so I can shake it up. And shake it up. And shake it up. And shake it up. Shake it up. Give it a really good shake. Shake it some more. One more shake. Bastard."


"I'm losing faith in humanity, one faked orgasm at a time."


"I totally won the dance-off with my Mr. Latino Octopus. I was a blur of legs and sashaying hips. Ole! Haha!"


"A vegetarian restaurant seems a f*****g stupid idea. Just pitch a tent over a vegetable patch. Job done."

Last edited by Electrik Kar, Wed 15 Sep 2010, 09:59.

Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

I've decided it's time to bite the bullet and get a proper phone now

Fo real!

The effigy was likely built in anticipation of the Pastor's book burning, then when he didn't go through with it they all probably thought 'well, we've already gone to such great trouble building this thing... hmmm... let's torch it anyway!!'.

And then they had a barbeque.

Back To Intrepid's question-

Quote from Intrepid :

My question is, in basic terms, where are we now

After the GWPF review, looks as though we're finally at the beginning.

(it's a must read)

Thanks for the heads up Sam. Ha-- not even on Bishop Hill yet.

Ghostigital - Hovering Hoover Skates
Ghostigital - Not Clean

Last edited by Electrik Kar, Tue 14 Sep 2010, 12:54.

An effigy of the Pastor has been torched



Kind of ironic?

Quote from der butz :

Don't believe media.

How's the old saying go? Something like 'believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see with your own eyes'. Seems like a pretty good strategy.

Commodore 16 (quickly replaced by the Vic 20)

I read your comment Sam and I thought it was hilarious! But at the same time I agree, truly shameful behaviour by the Guardian. I think if anyone would like to understand this issue in full, they need to head over to Bishop Hill to hear the full story.

Bob 'Lightning-Fingers' Ward... still smiling at that one.